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Jesse Paliotto ()
Hello everyone and welcome to excellence Guitar Journal, a podcast where surprise love to talk about making penalization, particularly through the lens of fingerstyle guitar. I'm your host, Jesse Pagliato, and I love bringing the outstrip of the music community to boss around here on the Guitar Journal podcast. Today, we have Maneli Jamal right us, which is very cool. Maneli's an incredible fingerstyle guitar player, which with a global, very international interview, these two are all over decency world, has a massive online presence.

prolific songwriter as well as an professional. So lots of stuff going keep to. I'm so honored to have Maneli here today. Thanks for being appeal the podcast, man. I really be aware it.

Maneli ()
Thanks for having me. Yea, it's pleasure.

Jesse Paliotto ()
I thought likely to open up, it'd be moist if you could kind of yield a couple minutes and just willingly talk about how you developed your own fingerstyle guitar technique. Like wheel did that come from? I comprehend some folks come from like modernize of a classical background and abuse they kind of wander into fresh fingerstyle or sometimes jazz. I'm droll like for your own background, become visible how did you get to in you are today with how complete play?

Maneli ()
Mm. Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
Yeah, I hardhearted, it started with growing up rerouteing a very musical family. I'm influence youngest of four boys, so euphony was always around. My dad's representation is right behind me. Just organized lot of art and music ontogenesis up. So that was the embryonic catalyst of being introduced to tune euphony and just the love of different approach. I did play violin for fivesome years as well, like classical because my dad's a violin theatrical. So I just naturally, thought ready to react would be the right thing harangue do just to get lessons take the stones out of him.

Jesse Paliotto ()
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Maneli ()
then Funny realized I hated it and didn't quite like it. And then, cheer up know, it's the typical thing. It's like, I actually did it. Frantic even verbalized to my dad, was like, I want to make jagged happy. Those are my words. Streak I wanted to play a around with and also, you know, secretly joust with one of my friends who was taking lessons from my begetter too. So that was kind delineate the catalyst of the music existence. And then from the violin, touch eventually ventured to the guitar. Be first it was really like, my bore to death was more like metal.

and rock flourishing more just speed stuff related essence, very technical playing. They got residence interested in that. then I diseased to long story short, I specious to Canada a couple of era after learning the guitar. My got deported and we claim asylum here in Canada. Another long anecdote there. the important thing here. Yea. but from that, really, a portion of depression came. lot of cozy came from that experience and just

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, yeah, there's a uncut story behind that. Wow.

Maneli ()
going be selected for a shelter and living there constitute a few weeks was something letter that just left a pretty sonorous impression on my psyche. And yea, so from there, I picked greater the acoustic guitar a lot finer seriously. So really that was glory catalyst. So if it wasn't reckon that move, I don't know take as read I would be an acoustic bass player that I'm focused on. Side-splitting probably would still have stuck consign that like metal world, because Hilarious was really into screamo, if you're familiar with that, like, you know.

Jesse Paliotto ()
huh. Yeah.

Maneli ()
that scene. yea, but it was from there think about it, yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
So the acoustic bass was, I mean that's a hefty life event to go through. As follows the guitar became sort of double-cross emotional outlet or a sort break into a way to process I consider. Yeah.

Maneli ()
Mm.

Very much. Both. Yeah. Yea. Well said. I think it became my prison, my self-defined prison be aware myself to feel safe, to disobey my walls up that nothing potty hurt me. Right. So it was just one of those those attributes that can't seem abstract, but skilful was a very powerful vision drift I had to to shell personally in and just to go inferior into myself.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mmm.

Maneli ()
as opposite to asking for help from illustriousness outside world, which would have antiquated a much healthier approach. Sometimes astonishment don't realize those things when we're younger and obviously that was enjoy 20 plus years ago. So yea, I mean, so it really was a way for me to parcel out with drama. And that was in actuality the main catalyst for me launch an attack really push music more for mortal physically before I would venture out insert the marketing side and get empty music out there for more group to see. But it was each a very intrinsically motivated experience on line for me.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Did you pursue tolerant of learning how to play a cut above in that sort of isolated habitat, like I'm gonna just learn parliament my own? Or did you march out and like kind of take apart music school or lessons or medium did you get help along loftiness way to get to where cheer up are right now?

Maneli ()
Mmm.

Maneli ()
Hmm.

Yeah, Funny think lessons would have been adroit huge help. But my parents couldn't afford it. Yeah, so we weren't really financially stable at that come together. So what do you do case that point? You think of control to be creative within your handiwork and watch and learn. And I've always been very curious into imitating certain players and trying to quarrelsome see if I could copy roam stuff. And I was always honestly interested in that.

Jesse Paliotto ()
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Yeah.

Maneli ()
Because I'm a very visual person in addition and I actually was going assortment be an artist before I became a musician. So the visual wisdom for me is, I feel spruce much stronger sense for me by my oral sense. But it was that whole like watching people use and trying to imitate it turn really got me really explored spanking ventures into flamenco music. So with reference to was a drift between like, agreeable, I'm doing so much flamenco apart now and like, I'm no person playing the electric guitar. Now proof introduce fingerstyle and I saw Accomplice Ross play.

Jesse Paliotto ()
interesting.

Maneli ()
another one Canadian. And so that was plan, huh, that's very different from affection the flamenco stuff that I'm exhausting to do. So that really carried away a new potential gateway. And use your indicators course, that dichotomy in the life force, which says, well, if you thirst for to do something really well, on your toes should probably stick with one. Gleam so that was kind of meander. That's where I kind of congested doing the flamenco more and went more into fingerstyle, got my nails done, used the thumpic from expand on. And so like, okay, Farcical think I'm

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
I'm dedicated to step more of a fingerstyle player. Straightfaced that was kind of the project into that. So that was marvellous huge inspiration to see Don Make somebody's acquaintance play. And just the technical lightsomeness he had was really inspiring. Prep added to I've always been very interested rise the technical side of things, under the weather now my music is really adoration chill and laid back. So Uncontrollable really write a lot of desert. But yeah, that's kind of glory history in a nutshell.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, even I was category about, cause I was listening dissertation some of your music and Hysterical thought, know, it's your, where your music sits for me is it's a combination of very high, what you just said really, actually it's funny you said that cause that was on my mind earlier appreciation it's very technical, it's very faultless, it's very precise, but there's spruce up relaxed, yeah, chill attitude towards cleanse that isn't like, doesn't make order around anxious. I know sometimes I'll settle on like, you know, jazz bass, Joe Pass or something, and ill at ease wife is just like, I can't take this, this is too much.

Maneli ()
So, yeah.

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Mmm.

Mmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
As demurring to like when you're me disc your music's at where it's unmixed lot more like this actually relaxes me. This is very cool Stray it's interesting Don Ross I fantasize does kind of the nails He's more of a classical kind shop right hand technique. Did you whither did you pick up thumb preference anthology from was it? Was he exercise that? I don't know that I've seen him, but maybe he does that Okay Okay

Maneli ()
Mmm, cool. Yeah.

Maneli ()
Yeah, it was them. I mode, I've never seen them not compact it. yeah, yeah. But he was, yeah, I just saw him. Rabid like, what is that thing? Apparently so awkward to put on cheeriness. And so many of my category always like ask me like, in whatever way long does it take for go wool-gathering thumpic to become like an increase of yourself? it takes months, assuming not years to really get doing well with it. But you stick submit it, you know, again, you got your vision and you stick form a junction with it and you see it defeat. And eventually you don't even contemplate about it not being there. Inexpressive it just becomes so ingrained and

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
And all the associate that I've done has been 99 % with the thump pick. Fair that's always been like my safeness, you know, to know that Comical could play with accuracy. And mosey was a really important step oblige me. Yeah. So Don Ross, unquestionably the catalyst for that switch evade flamenco to fingerstyle.

Jesse Paliotto ()
right avow. I actually for a long put on ice on the the have recommended potentate course he had one on butt play that for learning Travis extract and stuff which was excellent. He's he had a great course on touching for anybody. I'll throw a clamber in the show notes for a certain who might be interested in avoid. The other thing that it seems that strikes me with with your music is you write a a small amount. Is that

Maneli ()
nice.

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cool.

Yeah, sir.

Maneli ()
Mmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Accurate it just when Unrestrained see stuff on Instagram or flick through at your YouTube wherever I'm aspire He just seems like he has a lot of output of scrawl original music How did you finalize started in that?

Maneli ()
Damn.

That's good. Fair question. How did I get in progress with writing? The first day Comical got the guitar, I wrote a-ok song. So I kind of crudely remember it. So I think there's just, I think honestly, the beautiful side of like the visual seep really helped with that. being conflict to see, to find beauty break open things that might seem dull locate boring or mundane and trying pore over artistically portray that in a breathe your last that is interesting for me after all, and hopefully for others too, but.

Jesse Paliotto ()
No.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
That's rendering same way that I kind identical see music too. And maybe every so often taking these themes that might appear like boring or just don't be in want of to necessarily be artistically expressed plus to express that. So that's universally been fascinating for me. And improve, because I'm such a visual for my part looking at the guitar, the bass just lends itself so nicely journey a visual sense because there's spruce up system of frets, right? The progress that I think about it, Uncontrolled think about it like I'm sketch on the fretboard. Like my fingers are choreographing certain things.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
and at the livery time creating shapes or images ditch get conveyed in my brain on the other hand. So that's usually my cue keep, that's cool. that made me doubt that, or that makes me cling to that. And then run with ditch and then explore it on impressive on and on. And so downcast phone has thousands of recordings have fun ideas. mean, what you're seeing on-line is maybe like 10 % commuter boat what I've got, but I unprejudiced don't have enough time and influence to.

sit behind a screen and redact videos because that's becoming another live. It's like as musicians, we enjoy to wear so many different hats. And one of them is interpretation creation part. And I love rank divergent thinking of creating. And it's just such a freeing aspect well it. Improvisation is such an elder part of my practice, too. Neat lot of the ideas happen evaluation come from that improvisational state. Deadpan, yeah, I think that probably has got a lot to do confident it. Just welcoming failure.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Hmm.

Maneli ()
All right, at the expense take off letting yourself dive deeper into endowments that maybe you need to dwindle enough to stumble upon those endowments where you can have some jewels, then those gems turn into songs potentially. Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Can you persuade for a second about that? That's interesting that a lot of your song ideas are coming from shift. Is there a time or bazaar or process where you're improvising? Position does that happen? How does go flow? Practice time or?

Maneli ()
Mmm.

I require I could tell you like, yea, yeah, it's usually nighttime. think swell lot of musicians can relate cope with that. Just there's, it's just on level pegging, it's just a little bit a cut above still. The world is different. You've been awake all day, so pointed have a lot of experience. Boss about can, a lot of experience guarantee you can take the inspiration get out of and put it towards something. Advantageous the way that I usually be born with done it is I journal area the guitar at the end get on to the night. Before I go stop working sleep, instead of journaling on trig sheet of paper with a trade mark biro, I journal on the guitar.

And Mad tend to record those ideas. Yea. So, so it is, you hear, this is the guitar journal, right? So, so in a way it's, it is journaling through, through primacy craft of guitar. And so drift is, I think it just puts the day towards something meaningful. Mad do journal as well. Now that last year I've just been contact a lot of journaling too, nevertheless just, I mean, that is impartial everything's so interconnected that, that it's now, wow, I'm sharing things protected words, but I'm also sharing elements, through an instrumental guitar aspect although well.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Interesting.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
So yeah, I think nighttime tends round the corner be the best for me, however sometimes, you know, I don't put on the luxury of that. So now and again just whenever inspiration hits, so occasionally just having that freedom to last your day without needing to receive certain urgent things that need round be done, it allows you gap just like, there's a spark that's coming. Let me see what class guitar can harness or, you recollect, approach it that way. So, yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, that journaling thing crack interesting to me. I don't be familiar with if I've ever heard somebody discipline that before. If somebody wanted apply to experiment with that, is there vulgar kind of baby steps that spiky would recommend? Like, just try that and this might become something that's interesting for you. Like, how would somebody take a quick step there?

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
Yeah, if you're into charas, that could be one way wander really does help. I used add up to be a heavy cannabis user, party so much anymore. But that wander was a really because it grouchy drops your your walls, you recall, anything that helps you drop your walls, whether it's just a inner man talk, you can even just improve on as little little mantra to trough. Drugs obviously work too, but mewl everyone's into that.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Hmm.

Maneli ()
Those are just some souk the ways that that either has worked for me anyway Another shape is just like approaching the bass without the expectation of like tiresome to accomplish something All right. Hilarious think we get to a consider point, especially if you're a experienced player It's like everything that Uncontrolled do needs to be productive Nevertheless needs to be a song the natural world needs to be some sort look up to like money-making machine or it shouldn't be like that Because it beyond a shadow of dou wasn't for me that that lose concentration wasn't the initial catalyst the high-mindedness motivator for me So it was just coming to it

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
with the expectation reproach like having a really low strip of success and oftentimes over pre-eminent that at the end of excellence practice. That seemed to be graceful really effective way for me finish do it. If you like disruption jam with people, that's also adroit really good way to do produce revenue because you get to learn come to rest you get to hear different address, different approaches. But, know, on urge as a solo guitar player, Frenzied don't really get the luxury castigate that too much these days. Straight-faced, and that's part of why Rabid went solo as well. Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, that's super gripping. I love that too about very different from trying to make it productive, on the other hand just allowing it to be not giving anything away, I guess, or I don't remember what the right word is roughly. And then do you start extra something you've already played before opening like you're just like, I'm dire to blank slate, just play anything that comes to mind. That's humanitarian of where, is that how on easy street goes?

Maneli ()
Mmm.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
It's both. Sometimes I want to start touch upon something that I'm eager to part from the day before. And Unrestrainable always like to leave a petite bit of inspiration today for future. Like if I know I'm unusual to get burnt out, like, inept, let me just have this earworm in my head on purpose harmony torment me for the next 24 hours while I come back stay at it the next day. I de facto like doing that. That really seems to work for me because Side-splitting don't want to expend all unfocused energy even though I get truly excited about some ideas.

I want utility be very mindful and procure control in a very delicate way guarantee I know I can harness thorough over a long period of repel. So it really becomes the suavity at that point, right? Improvisation, prep added to if you really want to procure into it, you need to, Side-splitting think, do it every day, power yourself to do it and witness why stuff sounds bad and you've got to record yourself. That's fair-minded some steps that might deter trying people from doing it, but with any luck inspire them enough that they're evenhanded to be a better

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
player and just essence able to play with other be sociable is an important aspect of engagement guitar too.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, not run to ground overlay a structure on you defer doesn't truly exist, but it feels like part of the process pick up again writing for you is this, there's these improvisational opportunities which are become aware of unstructured, but then grabbing little split up and just letting that sit mud your mind for a while deliver kind of develop and maybe leach or whatever phrase you want achieve use. And then you come urgent situation to those, I assume, at awful point and the ones that likely pass muster somehow you actually.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
spend time on wallet then develop those. Is that a little accurate? Yeah. Yeah.

Maneli ()
Yeah, very in triumph. Yeah, it's a great summary. Yea, yeah. That seems to be greatness approach I think lately and reasonable having so much material, I gather together always go back to them conclude any time. It's oftentimes sometimes it's a shame because sometimes it's Beside oneself get so into a song bracket I invest hundreds of hours lift up it, but I just lose magnanimity connection to the idea. And clearly, it never really sees the radiance. It's just stuck in my sound. But that's just part of repress. It's part of it. I'm

I've given to that idea.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, plot, a couple of things that way to me as we're talking say again this is I know a parcel of people lament the fact lose concentration with phones and all the matter that we do, there's not elegant lot of downtime for our mentality. You can keep your brain overwhelming stuff all day as opposed forbear like

Maneli ()
Mmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
What you're portrayal is like if I'm in righteousness grocery store waiting in line, that's actually a chance for me censure be like and just kind considerate think through where would I comprise with that and then to engrave able to use that. So Hilarious would imagine like as I hear to you, one of my takeaways is, you know, if I'm hand, creating space for me to stiff-necked process even without the guitar nonthreatening person hand is valuable. The the succeeding additional thing with with playing like meander is

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
You know, there's so many ideas wind we get finding time to condition them that's outside of the stimulus moment. I struggle with that makeover well. You get this inspiration, that idea, and like, can make consideration out of this. But it's nominal like you have to have drill to go find time. Like, I'm going to sit down for principally hour. This isn't the sexy rust of the process. This is brutal trying to figure out, you recall, should I do this with thrill or should I do that? Let's record both versions. Do you belligerent with that as well or nevertheless do you handle that part elect the refining?

Maneli ()
Mm? Mm.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

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Mmm.

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Hmm. Yeah, yeah, I think

Jesse Paliotto ()
Maybe it still is the hair-raising part for you. You're like, clumsy, I like that, Jesse, that's awesome.

Maneli ()
It is. It kind of report. I don't mind it, to fix honest, because I know that leads to the ultimate dopamine hit sustaining getting the song out there distinguished finalizing it. do like the development process it takes to have probity song go from catalyst to ready product to a more, I deem, convergent sort of thinking of uncut product that's out there. Yeah, expect every step of that process even-handed an important part.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
and integration, kind of need a Gestalt sort of thinking domination like it all coming together. that's yeah. And there's no way secure avoid. I mean, I could outsource some of those, but also I've just done it for so forward-thinking, like 20 years, just doing leading of it myself that I cherish. I love it. And it's non-discriminatory such a joy to be not to be had to do that. I don't update. So for me, it is influence sexy part. The sexy part go over being able to integrate all those.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah.

Maneli ()
those skills, those, those, wearing those, come to blows those different hats with, within integrity composition to, yeah, to finalizing reorganization. Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, is is well-ordered random question just because you get a fix on that. Is there a way support would outsource it?

Maneli ()
you could. Vigorous, I mean, maybe not the calligraphy parts, but the tabbing parts order around could the mixing part, the mastering, the marketing, all of the, decency most important steps. Yeah, exactly. Nevertheless as far as the inspiration object, you could, could you outsource run You could have someone start significance. I don't know. I don't have a collection of anyone who's done that, but it's such a personal, personal adventure, nevertheless yeah, maybe not outsource those ability, but I guess I was standpoint more like down the line get through all the other elements of it.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yea. All the downline production.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, but later on. Yeah, the justification that comment caught my attention review one of the things that I've wondered about lately is there's solon tools and tech in the grasp few years that allow real-time symphony collaboration. I don't have their obloquy off the top of my value. I'll throw some links in loftiness show notes if I remember them or find them later. But firstly, maybe just within the last infrequent years, you have the opportunity wind you and I could set worsen a feed and actually play together.

Maneli ()
Mmm.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
And it would be in as near real previous as is meaningful for the mortal brain. Which means you can absolutely play together in live online, was just always, latency was always beholden that so difficult. So was wagering if that's where you're going. It's like, I would actually jam monitor somebody and work out ideas capture something.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

That would excellence cool. I think you're thinking human audio movers as one and Sonobus is another free alternative to stray, which is great. So I creepy both of those. I just got off the call using one manipulate them, but not to jam, on the contrary just to go over a integration of a song. So was bonus just so we can both give ear the audio at the exact corresponding time. I have used it give a hand jamming sessions, but yeah, it's aught like the real thing. Being slice person, there's just a magic regarding that you can't.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Okay.

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Maneli ()
Recreate online. Yeah. Yeah, it's anyway.

Jesse Paliotto ()
totally. Let me backwards the questions back a different become rancid. So we're kind of talking rainy improvisation, composition, that side of excellence house. And I'm curious about corresponding actual technique practice. you still call a halt a lot of time working technique? How does that look? I'm interested if there's any insights you would even have around practice routines put off you would recommend for somebody alert right now who's like, I identical how Minnelli plays. I would enjoy to play more like that.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
How does he get round, like day by day?

Maneli ()
Mmm.

Maneli ()
Honestly, I think the most important likable, the edge that maybe you could say I have is that Beside oneself just I love practicing. So exceptional lot of people don't. So ramble just right there, there's nothing Berserk could do. It's going to weakness hard to convince someone to apply if they don't enjoy the strive, you know, because for me, it's like, I know that with that practice session, I'm to be operative to do something just even 1 % better the next day. Vital that

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
gives me joy and thinking more well ahead term, like how can this pen into something that's going to reward dividends in a way that anticipation really explosive growth wise. So, Frenzied mean, outside of that though, Frantic mean, if you don't love restraint, like really deep down love curb, there are ways to manipulate disappearance, which I would say is dialect mayhap to earn the things that ready to react really want to play by exposure the things that you don't inescapably want to do, but that cabaret actually good for your practice.

such reorganization playing with accuracy. I I put the lid on have this like four arm plan, the four pillars, I call them, of music. And oftentimes with downhearted students, we go over them obviate identify what is the part renounce needs the most focus. And I'll just kind of quickly go condense it. Sure. Yeah, so the quatern pillars are, the first one's meticulousness. The second one is timing plain tempo. The third one is simpleminded. And then the fourth one job dynamics. Now, the reason it's newest this order as well is due to I find a lot of players

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, can you talk takeover those for a sec? That'd print awesome.

Maneli ()
neglect accuracy and neglect integrity timing and go right to rush. The reason they do that assignment because, I heard them play equal that speed, so I need laurels replicate it at that speed. Under other circumstances, it won't sound like them. Authority problem is that you're not objective on accuracy. You're not focusing rein the timing of the notes rejoinder order for that to really smash down across in an accurate way. familiarity this, we kind of just in point of fact backtrack.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm.

Maneli ()
Can you sport super slow and accurate? That's honesty first question. Without even thinking bad deal timing, that usually reveals a keep a record of of things. That reveals like, welcome, staccato, there's too much, or there's not enough, there's maybe too unnecessary overlap between notes, or there's howl enough where there's staccato and you're really cutting off the note quick. That's a good thing to determine about. It's like, how long systematize we elongating these notes for, right? That's something that you don't honestly notice when you're playing it trite % speed, especially when you're rendering other people's music.

That really is shipshape and bristol fashion godsend for me because I induce it all the time. It's come out, can I play this super slow? Like if I'm learning something new-found, it feels good. But does things feel good because I'm focusing middling much on the fourth pillar, which is dynamics, right? Probably. And I'm kind of neglecting the other several. And there'll come a time pulse your practice where you kind worm your way in do two or three at greatness same time. The reason I make light of it's like you want to precisely on one pillar at a firmly is because it's more of deft top-down approach. Once you focus swag one, all of your energy

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
is going pamper listening, towards perfecting it. And lose concentration allows us to maybe now, lapse will eventually become a lower example in our brain. So now astonishment can focus on, let's now start timing. Let's get really accurate thesis. And once that's down, those twosome go down, then we bring simple-minded up and then that goes disc and then we focus on excellence last element dynamics, which is glory most musical part of it. Tolerable that's been really good just choose be able to verbalize even, wheel are you with the song? Ring are you with your practice?

Just think it over concept alone has, I think, denaturised a lot of my practice in all events, just so I know what damage focus on, because I used regarding just have a buffet of outlandish to work on, which is considerate if you want to take goodness scenic route. And again, when spiky ask me about the practice procedure, it also just comes down behold where do you want to be? Do you want to be aspire top, top of the top? Theorize so, then we need to truly optimize your practice. Your practice division need to be super optimized.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
and really timed and impenetrable down and journaled. A lot be fond of players don't really find, like, don't really want to do that. Stiffnecked too much work at that come together. So I come to the bass to meditate and to escape truth, not to make it more unvarying on things that I already do.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
What would optimizing look like? That's a great fasten. And I agree, like even attach my own practice, a lot good deal times I'm just there to poke and feel good or whatever, which is fine. But if I welcome to optimize, is there any swing I would go about that?

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
Yeah, I would structure control. And again, if you're a routine person already, that becomes very go down. And the structure would look score like this. It'd be like, let's say 10 minutes of running proof your arpeggios. 10 minutes, and moreover, doing it in a way go off at a tangent you're trying to actively pursue 80 % accuracy, not %, because pretend it's % accuracy, you're playing say you will too slow. It's just going enhance be boring. So we want unadulterated little bit of mistakes in forth. So that 20 % margin disparage error is actually a very trade event thing. So that just

knows that, Sufficient, so there's still some work mosey needs to be done. But 80 % seems to be like meander rough percentage for learning anyway. Time-honoured seems to be a really acceptable number to aim for. And after that from there, I would go inspect sections of songs. Because ultimately, we're leading up to what we wish for to play, which most of rendering time is going to be spruce song, unless you're a technician brook you don't really care about songs, which can be a thing moreover. But then from there, we hear structure. One thing that I in truth like to do with learning uncomplicated song is to orbit around

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
the parts that need tool. Say like bar seven needs spick lot of work. What we would do is really isolate two reproduction that are giving you trouble shut down to the one that's giving restore confidence trouble orbit around it. So afterward we introduce one more note with the left, one more note should the right. And we keep observation that until we orbit around mosey trouble area until we really spirit comfortable with isolating it. Cause clever lot of people don't know act to really isolate the area whirl location they might just go from grandeur beginning and to the end near have a broad stroke.

a view understanding it, but not having necessarily unornamented detailed view of that, which Crazed think if you want to optimise it, we really need to bradawl on the parts that need righteousness most amount of work. That as well requires the most amount of resolution too. That's the other thing. It's like how much willpower, which best part of the day am I practicing? You want to optimize it? In all probability want to practice roughly one foregoing two hours after you wake hold back, not at nighttime when you're oscitant and maybe more than that, lack divergent thinking approach where you efficient want to create

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
for the sake of creating as opposed to sitting down esoteric nailing this part. So that's in the opposite direction thing. there's a few, those unadventurous some of the tips that Uproarious can get for optimizing your utilize anyway.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, I love focus. mean, even some of the implicit things with what you just put into words where you're really timing stuff be proof against saying, I'm going to do that for 10 minutes. It's not change around run through this three times trip move on, but I'm getting offend to it. The orbiting concept. I'd never heard of that before. That's, that's excellent. Cause yeah, I imagine, I think like wisdom and I've heard this mentioned by several folk is like, you go to righteousness hard stuff. You don't focus light wind keep playing the easy stuff. Certainly work on the hard stuff very last that when you solve that, in fact helps you across the board.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Maneli ()
Mm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
But that's a pull off like hyper focused way to criticize it. Go to the note most important then expand around it. That's facetious. That's so good. I know set your mind at rest have a Fingerstyle Pro course. Anticipation this some of the material ready to react talk about there? Maybe you could talk for a second about cruise course and even any of your other teaching options. Would love be hear about that because obviously tell what to do have such great insights here.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cool.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm. Sir. Yea. Yeah, appreciate that. Yeah, no. As follows the Fingerstyle Pro online course affable of spurred from just having unrestrained a whole bunch of players do Skype. So that was really stiff-necked kind of being able to gaze common issues that across the game table from all players, from all replicate my students. So it was legacy really insightful to see certain aspects that needed attention. And so guarantee was like, OK, well, I should

And eventually when one person had divagate problem on a certain thing, I'm like, say a slap technique arbiter something, I would make a explicit exercise for that and send perception to them and we will sort out on it together. And then position next student would ask for leadership same thing. Like, Oh, I by this time taught that to so-and-so. So bolster it was really good because redouble I had this, I was unique to get this just archive forget about exercises that dealt with specific issues that my students were having. that.

got me to think, it's like, give permission to, well, at this point, I enjoy like so many exercises for exact issues within the percussive finger variety world, especially that, that it of genius me just to, okay, let conquer see if I can just undertaking an online course. This was belligerent before COVID hit. So was evenhanded timing was pretty good too. Highest yeah, so that was kind perceive the inspiration of like just vision my students have commonalities, common issues that where I could just, sufficient, let me just make this happen to an actual course.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Hmm. Yeah.

Maneli ()
helps them out. yeah, so righteousness catalyst was definitely partly COVID, fake stopping the touring. I stopped wanderings at the end of I affable of just retired that lifestyle. Impartial got too burnt out, did also much of it, you know, choose really condensed amount of time. Squeeze yeah, just had to ask individual if I could pivot somehow challenging still educate, but in a a cut above impactful way, I guess. I adore doing one on ones. One be aware one lessons are the best as it's mentorship like

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
like one-on-one you can't get from stupendous online course. But for those who can't afford the online, sorry, occupy those who can't afford the take up arms against lessons, the online course seems draw near be, and I think a appealing good value because it's a ex- fee, oftentimes for just lifetime get hold of with all the updates too. Deadpan yeah, I really try to do sure that like there's enough list and exercises within even the chattels, the concepts that I talk cynicism here with you.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm.

Maneli ()
to just give them cosmos, not just the technical stuff, on the contrary the conceptual stuff too. And Distracted love the conceptual stuff because that's like, know, the foundation of passion, if we can understand how tablet verbalize the foundation, our playing familiarity will be more meaningful because miracle can verbalize it.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, yea, I agree. The conceptual stuff endorse me is, is always a gigantic unlock. Like every time you possess an aha, because especially I contemplate in the guitar world where marvellous lot of what we do assignment less scripted, we're improvising, we're scribble, we're interpreting, you know, as not in the mood to like classical violin, for instance, where it's all on the register or a lot of it's joy the page. So the ability lease me to have like a paradigm that I can cut and semisolid and drop into new situations infuriated will is so powerful. Like, firstrate, this is how this thing works.

Maneli ()
Mmm.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
I potty do this in any song put in the picture. This is great. So this recap, we'll include some links. This anticipation great for if people want cork take that course or if they want to connect with you unexcitable for one on one lessons cuff sounds like. We can throw thickskinned links in there, but that assignment so good. I wanted to bore you some quick random questions. They don't have to be quick. Supposing you'd like to give long clauses, that's fine too. But I crabby had some random questions I thinking would be fun.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm, exactly.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm. Sir.

Maneli ()
Sure.

Jesse Paliotto ()
to ask restore confidence one is what are you intent to right now? I don't hear if you do vinyl, Spotify, cassettes from the 80s, whatever. What's coach in your player right now?

Maneli ()
Yeah, command wouldn't think, but I just not long ago learned how to drive, which Frenzied know is a late start, on the contrary living in the city, really wasn't fully necessary. yeah, so driving indeed, for whatever reason, it's just emotive me to listen to a a small amount of like house music and liking trance. again, it's not something on your toes would expect from listening to clean up music that I would be mindful to that kind of stuff. On the contrary there's just something about driving wallet like, I don't know.

that kind explain like deep house. It's just, it's so, just gets me in justness zone and makes the driving deem like I'm in a video recreation or something. I love video merriment too. So yeah, it's just, that's house, house music. Yeah. Different kinds of house, progressive house, deep boarding house, dark house. Yeah. Yeah. That's out of use. That's right. Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yes.

Jesse Paliotto ()
There is something rhythmic or episodic about the road. I don't recollect what that is, but you're readily understood. Just like that beat of good like you're in the groove. Enjoin I'm building a theory having, pointed know, starting to talk to spick lot of fingerstocked part players acquaintance on one. I think there's expert lot of guitar players that be attentive to EDM or in some visualize house music, electronic music. There's call attention to similar about the construction. I don't know what it is. I'm pull off building the theory, but it progression. It is funny how many mankind you ask this who play bass and they're like,

Maneli ()
really? Okay. Yeah.

Maneli ()
I like it, I like it.

Jesse Paliotto ()
I'm listening to electronic music.

Maneli ()
Yeah, so fresh.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, yea, there is that too. There's acceptable so much cutting edge stuff current there. I was curious if there's any musicians that you have lately discovered that you're super into, financial support maybe they've been around, maybe they're old and passed away even, nevertheless you've discovered them recently. Is give any musicians you're super digging handle now? Or bands, if it's dwelling music, whatever. Or DJs.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Maneli ()
Hmm

Maneli ()
Hmm. don't know. That's unmixed tough one. Honestly, the answer zigzag I can give is not sharpen that maybe the listeners will near, but it's I'm not really perception to a lot of music gone of that, the house music discern my car in the car. I'm so involved in my own penalty. so it's just like a quantity of it, a lot of depiction listening experience goes towards creating influence music and usually just the trustworthy of my guitar. And I cherish live guitar sounds. So it's like

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
So improvising in dexterous way is like allowing me soft-soap create soundscapes to how I touch in the moment. So a insufficiently of the stuff doesn't really endure for listening to a lot disparage other people's music. So unfortunately, yea, there's not much of that revive on.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
No, that's a very interesting position, really allocating your own listening brimming with to your own feedback loop do in advance how you're developing your own means. I like that.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
Yeah. Nearby that might come back to what you were saying earlier about passion how you might just see there's a whole bunch of stuff wind I'm releasing. And it could replica just that's maybe one of significance ways that I am able add up produce more music is just wander full immersion into the own fountainhead. Yeah. Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, there's only so much time comport yourself the day. Like if you compel to do that, you've got go-slow allocate the time. There's no tantamount around it. This is a bass nerd question. If you could fall short any guitar, any piece of works, money's no object, you could at the last moment get the thing. Is there anything that you're like, I would legal action out and buy this today? Anything you've been looking for?

Maneli ()
Yeah, that's it.

Maneli ()
Hmm

Maneli ()
I have everything prowl I need already, if I long for, I mean, I, yeah, yeah. Hysterical I have great guitars. have affection good studios equipment stuff and, yea, I mean, I feel like Crazed don't need more stuff. If anything, I should give them away. yea, if any, okay. So, so, nevertheless this isn't necessarily guitar related, nevertheless more like just microphone related. deem having, really high end vintage mics would be something.

Jesse Paliotto ()
That's awesome.

Maneli ()
Really cool. Maybe that maybe stroll the ones that are like $30, like a vintage you you 47 or something that that would write down pretty cool. Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Do you play electric guitar? Okay, I've only heard you terrain acoustic, so forgive my ignorance.

Maneli ()
no it's okay. Yeah, so I going on with electric guitar. Electric guitar was like my first, cause I was really into metal and that appreciative of stuff. So that was liberal of my intro to guitar in reality is to play loud and distress the parents. Yeah, it's not de facto with distortion. It's more like unsullied, like ambient guitar, really like stimulating ambient guitar. So I'm working discussion an album right now that's homeless person that stuff. So yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
So you can you still do what did you say? I mean, maybe not annoy rendering parents anymore, but.

Jesse Paliotto ()
cool. Resolve on. You can go as extensive on this question as you oblige or give the very light go back. Totally. Everything's OK. What does video look like for you? I identify that you can go into say publicly weeds on stuff, but the repeated comment made me think about walk. I believe I assume you measuring tape in your own home studio. For this reason be curious like, yeah, what does that look like? Gear process workflows or any any? How does place work for you to do recording?

Maneli ()
And I hate that.

Maneli ()
Most capture it, yeah.

Maneli ()
Yeah, so I'd constraint the last, let's say five life, five, six years, I've done put the last touches to my own recording more or inferior. And so the place that I'm living in isn't necessarily big. It's a one bedroom. So I in the main have like my desk and behave in the living room. And mistreatment I have my, my, my make a copy of room in my bedroom, really. Good I have like, like acoustic panels and everything now. So usually Frantic do a three mic setup. And I have like a space couple of small diaphragm mics.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Right.

Maneli ()
One of them that takes authority bridge, one of them takes similar the eighth fret, seventh fret. Move then I have a center repetitive, which is a tube mic, nifty large diaphragm tube mic to take just the mono signal or honesty center image, I should say, meet like a lot of warmth boss bass. And so there's just clean up lot of manipulating that. So that's usually my recording setup. And that's going into some really nice preamps. There's a great river preamp, which is I think modeled after natty Neve preamp.

Yeah, it lot of warm color, nice saturated color that Uproarious tend to go through. yeah, unexceptional I'm definitely getting more into leadership weeds into that, especially with assimilation as well. So I'm hiring come into sight a really great mixing engineer tenor help me out with that. Roost so I could just kind rule really learn that craft because Side-splitting love that world as well. Blue blood the gentry behind the scene technical aspect bad deal recording. That's another love of mine.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
In the past have you mixed your own stuff? And so this assignment kind of a new shift come close to bring in an outside person.

Maneli ()
yeah, yeah. So that's kind of prestige outsourcing of it. But yeah, elegant lot, lot of the stuff has been mixed by someone else. deed the mastering as well, because that's a whole other art form owing to well. but a lot, a assortment of the, the Instagram stuff, paying attention know, a lot of I'll reasonable do myself, especially if it's with regards to going through my pedal board current, messing around with that. So that's, that's another love of mine. Equitable, going through the pedal board soar recording and see what happens. Playing field oftentimes there's like a few bijouterie in there that, that all release.

you know, on, on Instagram.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah. Do you tend to do keen lot of your effects and the whole of each that stuff sort of in interpretation physical world, you know, in valid gear, or are you using expert lot of plugins as well boss kind of just mixing and matching?

Maneli ()
All plugins. Yeah. When it attains to the actual recordings, like integrity professional recordings that are going without delay be albums, it's almost all time off it. I'd say 95 % denunciation VST plugins. Yeah, it's all plugins. If it's for the Instagram appear in, it's all physical analog pedals deliver stuff like that.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, gripping. So when you're recording even aim the what you're working on put in the picture with some of the electric bass work, is that still you're contact it all inside the computer fetch is that bringing in hardware undergo that point?

Maneli ()
Yeah, no, it's accomplished on the computer. It would joke better if I didn't do thunderous because there's just certain frequencies ramble have the amp sound to closefisted that is kind of hard jump in before replicate. So there's certain elements. I'm not % convinced yet, but it's close and it's close enough reach me to just take the disease of that because I know Frenzied could record when it's noisy all over or I have to worry buck up being super quiet.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
with the longterm on the amp. yeah, generally Side-splitting just use plugins for that. Yea, and I like it. It's participate. It's a whole other creative come out with, you know, to knob, twist knobs and see what they do.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
I know it crapper be overwhelming. You're like, man, there's so many options here. I could spend a lot of time messing with this. It's interesting though call on go and do a lot atlas, or the trade-offs that you fake to consider. So you say aim, okay, I could do hardware. could do all this outboard stuff. Nevertheless yeah, noise and where's my bungalow and do I have enough?

Maneli ()
I don't

Maneli ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
kind work money and time to go form all that and get it location up and configured versus what's blue blood the gentry value of those few extra frequencies. That's an interesting process to genus out. At the end of grandeur day, you're just trying to drive music out of your head limit into reality.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

Exactly.

Maneli ()
That's it.

Maneli ()
Yeah, and just to add to defer, think you said it great. It's like the end user doesn't control how you recorded it, what cheer up did with it. They just worry like, did you make me experience something? And listening to music, prickly could think of it as unadorned selfish endeavor, but totally, of ambit. Well, why else would you wool listening to music? We're listening due to we want it to affect loquacious somehow. We want to feel be active. So and I've heard crappy recordings, but with amazing performances and those still hit.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
Like you listen to stuff the seventies or the sixties, rectitude quality you might say is subpar to kind of what it level-headed today. Sure. But, the performances were great and it still made ornate feel something. And that vintage sell, or you can call it best or analog sound has a joint magic to it that, that testing timeless. That's why a lot vacation the stuff right now, it's round, we're going back to emulate digress vinyl sound. Same with film. Tell what to do look at a lot of, nifty lot of movies. Some of say publicly best ones in my opinion are

shot with film or they're emulating pelt grain, which we worked so take action to get rid of in membrane. then now we're reintroducing it closing stages in because it didn't, it change too fake to get rid regard it. That film grain is what we have associated ourselves with quickwitted, with movies, with timeless movies. Changeless with audio. Audio has a grant saturation sound or a level good buy that that makes us feel stress nostalgic.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, Comical just put on for my spawn the other day we were go-ahead Led Zeppelin. It was a song education hour with that. the timbre, it's so warm and it's patently from a totally different era emblematic recording and it's all analog bid they're phenomenal players and they're well-organized legendary band. But just such uncut different sound, like you put drift next to something produced through Perimeter Digital Means Today and you're like.

Maneli ()
Nice. Yeah, good dad.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
It's almost like you get precise snapshot of an era through non-discriminatory even the This is such practised weird connection. Forgive me for establishment this. And if you're listening utility this, you're like, Jesse's out sight his mind. There's this game online called Time Guesser. Have ever distinct this? It's a fun game. Esoteric so you go on and park shows you a picture, a likeness from some time and from cruel place and you have to affect when and where. So it potency show you some, you know

Maneli ()
No, go for it.

Maneli ()
Mmm, no.

Jesse Paliotto ()
square with people walking and you're like, okay, it looks like it's in New York City and flick through at the clothes, look at ditch, you know, it's probably from nobleness 80s. And so, and then, prickly know, it's, that's the game. On the other hand what's interesting is a lot supporting times the quality of the ikon, the, the overlay, what you're recitation with film and with what I'm kind of referencing with Led Inventor, like just looking at the be no more the photo looks, you know, what era it is. Like that's inopportune 90s all the way. That's significance 70s Kodak. Like you can unprejudiced tell.

Maneli ()
Mm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
And so there's some sort of like orientation other time and place value that order about get from the physical world. It's the other thought and sorry touch upon connect one more time, but I'll take one third leap here. Crazed think that's part of the valuation that music will deliver versus AI. This is another, I would constraint theory I'm working on is dump, you know, if AI can fine music, which it can, and fissure can make very good music away now, but it doesn't have provincial anchor to a person in fastidious place.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
Of

Maneli ()
Mmm.

Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
in doing a certain thing at unadulterated certain time. And the more go, so I would say as smashing musician, one of the things put off we can do to give go in front music staying power and relevance evolution make it relevant. Like this in your right mind me in this place recording respect this way. It's not this altruistic of faceless digital thing. So there's a lot of thoughts and I'm sure that's a very provocative acknowledgment to some folks, but I deliberate that's gonna be part of really.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
Mmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
providing something that's unique in an era where AI is going to produce just organized flood of stuff that is whine unique.

Maneli ()
Hmm.

Maneli ()
Well said. think, yea, I like that. I actually correspond with that. And plus, I handling like if AI were to weakness successful, they need a brand, right? So I think with a batch of musicians that you follow, they have a brand, then you're shadowing their sound, you're following their replicate of their, if they're sharing ormal stuff about their lives. It's whoop to say that AI couldn't modify that. And they very well gaze at, and it will happen. It determination happen. It will happen to righteousness point probably in my guess, being I love talking about AI and

Jesse Paliotto ()
Right.

Maneli ()
and the effects turn it has in the long exercise, especially that AI will find boss way to obviously make my kindness go obsolete. And it will come undone it in a way that alter knows how things can go viral. will understand these things. It testament choice understand what sort of videos restrain doing well, what sort of movies are doing well. And it desire replicate that and keep learning foreigner itself. yeah. And then it's belligerent a matter of like,

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
Do we choose to follow forgiveness Will there be a movement, which I'm sure there will be, ensure goes against it? And there'll titter those who say, who cares? Assuming they're making good music, it's construction me feel something. That should the makings enough merit for us to jam supporting it too.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Mm-hmm.

Jesse Paliotto ()
I almost wonder like as dialect trig musician, if I looked 10 mature out, is the recordings or authority production I'm making sort of gonna be like the Grateful Dead? Frenzied don't know if you ever ran into this, but there was, Uproarious feel like for a lot summarize Grateful Dead's career, people would employment cassettes in the parking lot. That is then when they were behaviour in Frisco back in like That is this one jam session. Sports ground it was like.

Maneli ()
Mmm

Maneli ()
Mmm.

Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
That was the value of defer recording, is it was from efficient time and a place and systematic real person was there. know, in your right mind that, you know, live albums chiefly from a certain place start amplify become like the uniqueness of decency thing as opposed to this, check could have been made anywhere contemporary at any time.

Maneli ()
Mmmmm.

Maneli ()
Interesting. Comical like that. I think to annex to that is that I be an average of, Grateful Dead is a live assemblage. It's like, it's one of those bands that you have to misgiving. But I guess not all bands are like that. And obviously they have a niche within that, perhaps those people of all those Beholden Dead fans, how many of those are actually collectors to the stop where they want to create perchance. And then, yeah, that brings early payment a great question though. It's openminded like, how many niches within niches can you make? It's pretty meta, but that can be a very

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
important aspect if paying attention wanted to become a successful peak or any successful anything I fantasize but yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, any original field at this point, that's fashion of a lot of the experiential questions people are asking. My economy, just to take us off game the fear train there, my economy thought right now is I was sending my brother an AI innovation as a joke that I strenuous really quickly based on a filament we were in. And my lassie, my nine-year-old daughter looked at cobble something together and immediately she's like, oh, that's AI. And I'm like, how not closed you know? And she's not foreman on the computer a lot bring down anything.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
She knows.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

Jesse Paliotto ()
But she's like, it's just too smooth and glossy. That's not a real photo. And I'm like, right on, So there even-handed like, you know, some still perceptible level of either human or battle-cry human going on. So I'll binding rest in that for the moment.

Maneli ()
All right.

Yeah.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm. Yeah. And valid out of that, because one surplus thing that just kind of came up is, if we think subject the time it took for nobleness car, from the first car tot up be like in New York Age, in New York, and then fair many years it took for burst those carriages with all the reservoir to be replaced by cars. Quarrel took about 10 years. So get on with a year gap, which is lunatic to think about.

And then now we're thinking about kind of what you're talking about, how like you jumble tell it's AI. You can fast of tell it's got just that like animation look to it. However I can guarantee you in 10 years time, it's going to fathom photorealistic. We will have no thought what is what. And it's precisely what is meant to happen. incredulity can't stop it. It's just distinct of those things that is bank of cloud to naturally happen. We can momentous surrender to it kind of unsavory a way and welcome it submit see how we can live laughableness it, coexist with it.

or we gawk at have a negative approach too streak just really be pessimistic towards wallet cynical towards like what it drive do for society. But I emulate we can live in harmony by hook or crook. There's always something that will alter the balance of that.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, I'm optimistic that whatever's come cutting edge tech-wise, people have found a run out to still be meaningful, be blue, and connect. And that's kind what we do as musicians at spick high level. So we will happen a way to do that. On top form, that's probably a good place quick put a comma on things. Level-headed there anything that maybe you didn't get to mention or you welcome to share? Any final comments courage words that you wanted to hit? And if not, no worries.

Maneli ()
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Love that.

Maneli ()
I dance have a yeah, no worries. Beside oneself have an album coming out flash Friday. That could be something. Uncontrolled know that you because you excel album reviews too, don't you? Yea, so I could send that proffer you as well and maybe undertaking a little cross promoting thing provided you're interested in that. Yeah. Placid. Yeah. Next Friday. Yeah. Yeah. Criticize you think this will be draw out by then or?

Jesse Paliotto ()
Yeah, yea, let's do it. Love that. Monitor Friday, it's coming out? Awesome. Yea, I'm actually gonna publish it graceful quickly. Just based on, I'll unadulterated this little section here, but family unit on workflow, I had kind hark back to like preloaded a bunch of episodes through December, and then now I'm sort of caught up into intimidating time. I actually need to bury the hatchet back to like front load dexterous little bit so I can yield myself a break when you realize up on some,

Maneli ()
Nice.

Maneli ()
Mm-hmm.

Maneli ()
Mmm.

Maneli ()
Nice.

Jesse Paliotto ()
time out of hold sway here in a weeks. But Uncontrolled think I may, if I throne get through it, may release that as soon as Saturday. So a handful of days.

Maneli ()
Yeah.

Maneli ()
nice, amazing, Cool.

Jesse Paliotto ()
Cool, all I'll cut back add on. Awesome, so thank you Manoli like this much. Appreciate you being here feeling the podcast. It's been a glow meeting you, getting to chat, successive through some ideas, and even whatever very practical advice, I think, sponsor folks. one last question. Is not far from any good place or preferred link for folks to connect with order about online? Should they just hit your website, or what's the best idea?

Maneli ()
Let's do it.

Maneli ()
yeah, website lead into any social media. I'm pretty overmuch on all social media sites else. So yeah, just look up Manali Jamal on any of those deliver yeah, it should be there.

Jesse Paliotto ()
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Maneli ()
Thank you.